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Swing oldskool DnB drum bus with automation-first workflow in Ableton Live 12 (Intermediate)

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Swing Oldskool DnB Drum Bus (Automation‑First) in Ableton Live 12 🥁⚙️

Intermediate • Edits • Drum & Bass / Jungle focused

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1. Lesson overview

Oldskool jungle/DnB swing isn’t just “add groove and done.” The magic is in micro‑timing, ghost notes, bus movement, and automation that evolves across 16–64 bars—so the drums feel human, rolling, and slightly dangerous. 😈

In this lesson you’ll build a drum bus designed for oldskool swing using an automation‑first workflow in Ableton Live 12: you’ll set up a clean routing structure, add a tight but characterful processing chain, and automate the right parameters to create that “lift” and “pull” you hear in classic jungle breaks.

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2. What you will build

A drum setup that includes:

  • A Break track (Amen/Think/Hot Pants style) for swing + texture
  • One‑shot kick/snare layers for weight and consistency
  • A Drum Bus group with a purposeful stock device chain
  • An automation-first arrangement (intro → drop → variation → fill → drop 2)
  • Macro controls (or simple parameter mapping) to perform swing and grit quickly 🎛️
  • End result: rolling, shuffled oldskool drums that stay punchy in modern DnB.

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    3. Step‑by‑step walkthrough

    Step 0 — Session setup (fast but important)

    1. Tempo: 168–174 BPM (try 172 for classic rolling)

    2. Warp mode defaults: In Preferences, set audio warp to Complex Pro (you can change per clip later).

    3. Create tracks:

    - Audio Track: `BREAK` (Amen/Think break)

    - MIDI Track: `KICK` (one‑shot sampler)

    - MIDI Track: `SNARE` (one‑shot sampler)

    - MIDI Track: `HATS/PERC` (optional)

    4. Select those tracks → Cmd/Ctrl+G to group into DRUM BUS.

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    Step 1 — Choose & prep your break (the “swing engine”)

    1. Drop a breakbeat loop into the `BREAK` track (1–4 bars).

    2. Warp it:

    - Start with Beats warp mode (best for breaks).

    - Set Preserve: Transients

    - Turn on Transient Loop Mode (if needed for crispness)

    3. Right‑click clip → Warp From Here (Straight) on the first clean downbeat.

    Oldskool move: Don’t perfectly tighten every transient—let a little grime breathe. Your one‑shots will provide the “modern anchor.”

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    Step 2 — Build a swing grid that feels like jungle (Groove Pool + per‑layer timing)

    #### A) Groove Pool (global feel)

    1. Open Groove Pool.

    2. Add a groove:

    - Start with MPC 16 Swing 55–60 or similar.

    - For jungle, often 56–62 feels right depending on break.

    3. Apply groove only to certain parts:

    - Apply it to `BREAK` clip first.

    - Apply lighter amount to `HATS/PERC`.

    Groove settings starting point (per clip):

  • Timing: 10–25 (subtle; you’ll add swing elsewhere too)
  • Velocity: 0–10 (tiny humanization)
  • Random: 2–8 (adds life; don’t overdo)
  • Base: try 1/16 (classic shuffle), sometimes 1/8 for chunkier feel
  • #### B) Manual micro‑timing (where the real sauce is)

    On your SNARE MIDI clip:

  • Keep snare on 2 and 4 mostly on-grid
  • Nudge ghost snares slightly late (+5 to +15 ms) for “drag”
  • On your HATS/PERC MIDI clip:

  • Nudge off-hats slightly early (‑5 to ‑12 ms) for urgency
  • Keep key accents consistent
  • Ableton tip: In MIDI editor, use nudge (Alt/Option + arrow or drag with grid off) and watch the time offset.

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    Step 3 — Layer one‑shots to modernize the break (without killing the vibe)

    Oldskool breaks can be thin. Layering gives you consistent weight while preserving swing.

    #### KICK track (use stock Simpler)

    1. Load a punchy DnB kick into Simpler.

    2. Set:

    - Voices: 1

    - Warp: Off (for one-shots)

    3. MIDI pattern:

    - Support the break—don’t fight it.

    - Often: kick on 1, plus syncopated hits that match the break’s accents.

    #### SNARE track (Simpler again)

    1. Load a snare with a strong transient (or snare+clap layer).

    2. Pattern:

    - Strong on 2 and 4

    - Add very quiet ghosts (velocity 20–45) around the break’s inner hits.

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    Step 4 — Drum Bus processing chain (stock devices, oldskool flavor)

    On the DRUM BUS group, add this chain in order:

    #### 1) EQ Eight (cleanup)

  • HP filter: 25–35 Hz (12 or 24 dB/oct)
  • Small dip if boxy: 250–450 Hz (‑1 to ‑3 dB, Q ~1.2)
  • If harsh: 6–9 kHz gentle dip (‑1 to ‑2 dB)
  • #### 2) Drum Buss (glue + smack) 🧨

    Starting point:

  • Drive: 5–15%
  • Crunch: 0–10% (use carefully)
  • Boom: 10–30%
  • - Set Boom Freq around 50–65 Hz if you want a classic thump

  • Damp: 10–30% (tames top end)
  • Transient: +5 to +20 (more snap) or negative if it’s too clicky
  • Output: level-match (don’t fool yourself)
  • #### 3) Saturator (character)

  • Mode: Analog Clip
  • Drive: +2 to +6 dB
  • Turn on Soft Clip
  • If it gets fuzzy: reduce drive and push into Drum Buss instead.
  • #### 4) Glue Compressor (movement, not flattening)

  • Attack: 3–10 ms (let transients through)
  • Release: 0.1–0.3 s or Auto
  • Ratio: 2:1 (or 4:1 if aggressive)
  • Aim for 1–3 dB gain reduction on loud sections
  • #### 5) Utility (control)

  • Use Utility to quickly mono the sub-ish range if needed (see Pro Tips), or just for gain staging.
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    Step 5 — Automation-first workflow (this is the core of the lesson) 🔥

    Instead of setting a “perfect loop,” you’ll create controlled evolution over time.

    #### A) Create 3 automation lanes that define “oldskool swing energy”

    On the DRUM BUS, automate:

    1. Drum Buss → Drive

    - Verses / intro: lower (e.g., 6–8%)

    - Drop: higher (10–15%)

    - Fills: spike briefly (15–20%) for grit

    2. Glue Compressor → Threshold

    - Automate for slightly more GR in drops (don’t exceed ~4 dB usually)

    - Pull back in breakdowns to open the drums

    3. Break clip → Transient envelope / Gain / Filter (clip automation)

    - In clip view, automate:

    - Start offset (tiny changes create new groove patterns)

    - Envelope → Clip Gain (mini accents)

    - Filter (if you use Auto Filter on break track)

    Automation mindset:

  • You want A/B sections that feel like the drummer played harder, not like “plugin changed.”
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    Step 6 — Add “push/pull” with parallel returns (oldskool rave energy)

    Create two Return tracks:

    #### Return A: PARALLEL SMASH

    Chain:

  • Glue Compressor: Ratio 10:1, Attack 1 ms, Release Auto, push hard (10 dB GR)
  • Saturator: Drive +6 to +12, Soft Clip ON
  • EQ Eight: HP at 120 Hz (keep it mid/top grit)
  • Send DRUM BUS to this return lightly: -20 to -10 dB (taste).

    Automate the send amount:

  • Slightly up in fills and drop peaks
  • Down during busy bass moments to avoid masking
  • #### Return B: ROOM / RAVE AIR

    Chain:

  • Hybrid Reverb
  • - Algorithmic room, short decay 0.4–0.9 s

    - Pre‑delay 10–25 ms

  • EQ Eight after reverb
  • - HP 250–400 Hz

    - Dip harsh band if needed 4–7 kHz

    Automate this send to create space in intros and tightness in drops.

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    Step 7 — Arrangement ideas (very DnB/jungle practical)

    Build a 32-bar loop into a mini‑arrangement:

  • Bars 1–9: intro hats + filtered break (reverb send higher)
  • Bars 9–17: add snare layer + ghost notes
  • Bars 17–25: full drop (Drive up, parallel smash up slightly)
  • Bars 25–33: variation (change break start offset, add a small fill)
  • Classic jungle edit trick:

    At bar 24 or 32, do a 1-beat stop (mute DRUM BUS for last 1/8–1/4) then slam back in. Automate the reverb send up right before the stop to create a tail.

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    4. Common mistakes

    1. Over-quantizing the break

    You erase the natural swing. Let the break breathe; tighten with layers, not grid brutality.

    2. Applying heavy groove to everything

    If kick + snare + hats + break all swing hard, it turns to mush. Swing the break/hats, keep main snare stable.

    3. Too much Drum Buss Boom

    Boom can add a fake low-end that fights your bass. If your bassline is heavy, keep Boom subtle or off.

    4. Parallel smash not high‑passed

    If your crushed parallel contains lows, you’ll get flabby, distorted sub.

    5. No automation = static loop syndrome

    Oldskool energy comes from evolving intensity across phrases.

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    5. Pro tips for darker/heavier DnB 🌑

  • Midrange grit without losing punch:
  • Put Roar (stock) on the break only with a band‑split:

    - Distort 300 Hz–4 kHz, keep lows clean

    - Automate Roar’s Drive/Mix up in fills

  • Make the swing feel “meaner”:
  • Nudge certain ghost notes late while keeping hats slightly early. That push/pull creates tension.

  • Add “metal” to hats carefully:
  • Use Auto Filter with slight resonance and automate cutoff subtly (e.g., 8–12 kHz range) in the drop—tiny motion reads as aggression.

  • Sub discipline:
  • Put Utility on DRUM BUS and try:

    - Bass Mono (if using Live’s utility features for mono management) or simply reduce width by 10–30%

    Keep super-wide drums for tops; keep low punch centered.

  • Clip-based break edits for nastiness:
  • Duplicate the break clip, then change:

    - Warp mode Beats settings

    - Clip start

    - Transient markers (selectively)

    Switch clips between sections for “new drummer” energy.

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    6. Mini practice exercise (15–25 minutes) 🎯

    1. Pick one break and make a 4-bar loop.

    2. Add a kick and snare layer (Simpler), then:

    - Keep snare on 2 and 4 stable

    - Add 2–4 ghost notes per bar

    3. Build the DRUM BUS chain: EQ Eight → Drum Buss → Saturator → Glue

    4. Create three automation passes:

    - Drum Buss Drive (intro low, drop higher)

    - Parallel Smash send (up on fills)

    - Reverb send (up in intro, down in drop)

    5. Bounce/export a 32‑bar clip and listen away from the project.

    Ask: “Does it roll or does it loop?”

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    7. Recap

  • Oldskool DnB swing is micro‑timing + layered anchors + evolving bus movement. 🥁
  • Use the break as the groove source, and one-shots for modern punch.
  • Build a reliable stock chain: EQ Eight → Drum Buss → Saturator → Glue.
  • Go automation-first: Drive, compression threshold, parallel sends, and clip edits create real arrangement energy.
  • Keep swing intentional: not everything needs the same groove amount.

If you want, tell me what break you’re using (Amen/Think/etc.) and whether you’re going for 94 jungle, techstep, or modern roller, and I’ll suggest exact groove values + a 2-step or amen-style pattern to match.

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Welcome in. Today we’re building that swung, oldskool jungle and drum and bass drum bus, but with a workflow that feels modern and fast in Ableton Live 12: automation first.

Because here’s the truth. Oldskool swing isn’t a single groove setting. It’s micro-timing, ghost notes, and bus movement that evolves over 16, 32, even 64 bars. The goal is not “a perfect four-bar loop.” The goal is drums that roll, breathe, and feel slightly dangerous, while still hitting with modern punch.

By the end, you’ll have a break doing the groove and texture, one-shots doing the anchoring, a tight stock drum bus chain, and a few automation lanes that make your arrangement feel performed instead of copy-pasted.

Alright, let’s set the session up.

Set your tempo somewhere between 168 and 174. I’m going to sit at 172 because it’s a sweet spot for classic rolling without feeling rushed.

Now create your tracks. Make an audio track called BREAK for something like an Amen, Think, or Hot Pants style loop. Then MIDI tracks for KICK and SNARE using one-shots. Optionally add HATS or PERC if you want extra programmed tops.

Select those tracks and group them. Command or Control G. Name the group DRUM BUS. This group is going to be the nerve center for processing and automation.

Now let’s choose and prep the break, because the break is your swing engine.

Drop your break loop into the BREAK track. One bar, two bars, four bars… any of those are fine. For warp mode, start in Beats. Beats warp is usually the most “break-friendly” because it keeps transients snappy.

In the clip, set Preserve to Transients. If your break needs it, enable transient loop mode for crispness. Then right-click and choose Warp From Here, Straight, on the first clean downbeat.

And here’s an oldskool mindset that will save you: don’t over-correct the drummer. You’re not trying to grid the life out of it. Get the bar line alignment solid, fix only obvious flams that actually fight your layers, and leave a little grime breathing. Your one-shots are going to be your modern anchor.

Next up, we create a swing grid that feels like jungle. We’ll do it in two layers: Groove Pool for global feel, then manual micro-timing for the real sauce.

Open the Groove Pool. Grab an MPC style swing, something like MPC 16 Swing 55 through 60 as a starting point. Jungle often likes 56 to 62 depending on how hectic the break is.

Apply the groove to the BREAK clip first. If you have a hats or perc clip, apply a lighter amount to that. But don’t automatically slap the same groove on everything. If kick, snare, hats, and break all swing hard, it turns into mush.

In the groove settings per clip, start with Timing around 10 to 25. Velocity, keep it tiny, like 0 to 10, just enough to humanize. Random, maybe 2 to 8, and be careful because random can make your hats feel drunk if you push it. Base, try 1/16 for that classic shuffle. Sometimes 1/8 can be chunkier, but 1/16 is the usual jungle pocket.

Now the manual micro-timing layer.

This is where we stop thinking in “percent swing” and start thinking in milliseconds, like an editor.

Pick one element to own the pocket. Most of the time, that’s your snare layer. Your layered snare is the timekeeper. Everything else is allowed to lean around it.

On your SNARE MIDI clip, keep the main hits on 2 and 4 mostly on-grid. Don’t mess with those unless you really know why. Then add ghost snares quietly, and nudge those a little late. A good target range is plus 6 to plus 18 milliseconds. That late drag is the “pull.”

On your HATS or PERC MIDI clip, do the opposite. Nudge off-hats slightly early. Around minus 4 to minus 12 milliseconds. That’s the “push.” When hats push and ghosts drag, you get tension. That tension is the roll.

And a practical tip: if you feel lost, commit to a range. Don’t let yourself nudge one ghost 2 ms, another 25 ms, another 9 ms. Consistency across the tune is what makes it feel like a drummer, not like random editing.

Now we layer one-shots to modernize the break without killing the vibe.

On the KICK track, load a punchy DnB kick into Simpler. Set voices to 1. Turn warp off because it’s a one-shot.

Write a pattern that supports the break, not fights it. Usually kick on the 1, then syncopated hits that follow the break’s accents. Think “reinforce the downbeat, reinforce the groove highlights,” and let the break do the chatter.

On the SNARE track, load a snare with a strong transient. You can layer a snare and clap if you like, but keep it focused. Put strong hits on 2 and 4. Then add very quiet ghosts, like velocity 20 to 45, around the inner hits of the break. Don’t add ghosts just because jungle has ghosts. Add them to create a phrase.

Here’s a cool oldskool phrasing trick: make a two-bar call and response. For example, bar one has one ghost leading into 2 and one ghost after 4. Bar two has two quick ghosts leading into 2 and none after 4. Now your swing lives in phrasing, not just timing.

Before we process the bus, quick layering sanity check.

If you ever feel like your layered kick or snare sometimes loses weight, that’s often phase or micro-alignment. Don’t “fix” that by re-timing the MIDI. Instead, nudge the one-shot start in Simpler by a tiny amount, even 1 to 20 samples, not milliseconds. You’re aligning transients, not rewriting the groove.

Alright, drum bus processing. Stock devices, oldskool flavor, and we’re going to keep it purposeful.

On the DRUM BUS group, add EQ Eight first. High-pass at about 25 to 35 hertz. Not because you hate low end, but because you want headroom and you don’t need sub-sonic junk. If it’s boxy, dip around 250 to 450 by maybe 1 to 3 dB with a medium Q. If it’s harsh, a gentle dip around 6 to 9 kHz can calm the brittle edges.

Next add Drum Buss. This is your glue and smack tool.

Start Drive around 5 to 15 percent. Crunch, keep it low, 0 to 10, because it can get fizzy fast. Boom around 10 to 30, and set boom frequency around 50 to 65 if you want that classic thump. But be careful: boom can fight your bassline. If your bass is heavy, you might keep boom subtle or off.

Damp around 10 to 30 to tame top end. Transient, try plus 5 up to plus 20 if you need more snap. Or go negative if it’s getting too clicky. And always level match the output so you’re not “preferring” it just because it’s louder.

After Drum Buss, add Saturator. Mode: Analog Clip. Drive plus 2 to plus 6 dB. Soft Clip on. This is where you get that warm-ish edge and density. If it gets fuzzy, back the drive down and lean on Drum Buss instead, or vice versa. Don’t just stack distortion and hope.

Then Glue Compressor. Attack around 3 to 10 milliseconds so the transient still hits. Release around 0.1 to 0.3 seconds, or Auto. Ratio 2:1 for subtle, 4:1 for more aggressive. Aim for 1 to 3 dB of gain reduction on loud sections. We want movement, not a flattened brick.

Finally, Utility. This is for gain staging and control. A really smart move is mapping Utility gain so you can A/B the whole bus processing at matched loudness. Oldskool crunch is incredibly easy to fall in love with because it’s louder. Level match, and you’ll make better decisions.

Optional: if your low punch needs to stay centered, reduce width a bit, like 10 to 30 percent, but don’t collapse your whole drum image unless you mean to. You typically want wide tops and centered low punch.

Now the core of the lesson: automation-first workflow.

Instead of perfecting a loop for an hour and then trying to “arrange it,” we’re going to build the arrangement energy with automation from the start.

Think like a mix engineer and do automation in passes. Three passes.

First pass is the energy pass. That’s Drive, Threshold, and send levels.

Second is the clarity pass. That’s small filter moves or tiny EQ adjustments when things get crowded.

Third is the drama pass. That’s mutes, stutters, and reverb throws.

Doing it in passes prevents that messy spaghetti automation that looks impressive but doesn’t translate.

So, energy pass first.

On the DRUM BUS, automate Drum Buss Drive. In the intro or verse, keep it lower, like 6 to 8 percent. When the drop hits, push it up, maybe 10 to 15. On fills or transitions, spike it briefly, maybe 15 to 20, just for a bar or a beat, to add attitude.

Next automate Glue Compressor threshold. In drops, you can lower the threshold a bit so it grabs more, but try not to exceed about 4 dB reduction most of the time. In breakdowns or intros, pull it back so the drums open up.

Then automate the break itself. And this is where people forget how powerful clip automation is.

In the break clip, automate tiny start offset changes. Micro changes can create entirely new groove patterns without changing samples. Automate clip gain accents for mini pushes. And if you add something like Auto Filter on the break track, automate cutoff to move between “dusty and distant” and “in your face.”

And remember: you want sections that feel like the drummer played harder, not like “a plugin changed.”

Now let’s add push and pull with parallel returns, because oldskool rave energy loves parallel.

Create two return tracks.

Return A is PARALLEL SMASH. Put a Glue Compressor on it, ratio 10:1, attack 1 millisecond, release Auto, and push it hard, like 10 dB gain reduction. Then Saturator drive plus 6 to plus 12, Soft Clip on. Then EQ Eight with a high-pass at about 120 hertz so your parallel doesn’t crush and distort the sub. That high-pass is non-negotiable if you want tight low end.

Send your DRUM BUS to this return lightly. Somewhere around minus 20 to minus 10 dB, depending on taste.

And automate the send amount. Bring it up in fills, transitions, and drop peaks. Pull it down when the bass gets busy so you don’t mask the groove.

Return B is ROOM or RAVE AIR. Add Hybrid Reverb. Use a short room, decay around 0.4 to 0.9 seconds, pre-delay 10 to 25 milliseconds so the hit stays punchy. After the reverb, EQ Eight: high-pass 250 to 400. If it’s harsh, dip somewhere around 4 to 7 kHz.

Automate the room send up in intros so the drums feel like they’re in a space, and down in drops so the drums feel tight and loud.

If you want a more advanced, really clean version of this: put a Gate after the reverb on the room return, and sidechain the gate from the dry break or snare. That way the reverb opens on hits and closes between them. You get air without smearing the swing.

Now let’s lay this into a practical arrangement, because swing only matters if it survives past 4 bars.

Build a 32-bar mini arrangement.

Bars 1 through 9: intro. Use hats and a filtered break. Room send higher. Drive lower.

Bars 9 through 17: bring in the snare layer and ghost notes. Keep your main snare stable. Let the break and hats do the moving.

Bars 17 through 25: full drop. Drive up. Parallel smash up slightly. Room tighter.

Bars 25 through 33: variation. Change the break clip start offset or swap to a second break clip with slightly different groove settings. This is the two-groove method: clip A tighter, clip B looser. Alternate every 8 or 16 bars so it never feels copy-pasted.

And here’s a classic jungle edit trick: right before a phrase change, do a short stop. Mute the DRUM BUS for the last eighth note or quarter note of the bar, then slam back in. Right before you mute, automate the room send up so you get a reverb tail that carries through the stop. It’s dramatic, but it’s also functional because it helps the transition feel intentional.

Quick common mistakes to avoid while you build this.

Don’t over-quantize the break. Tighten with layers, not grid brutality.

Don’t apply heavy groove to every layer. Decide who owns the pocket. Usually the snare layer is king.

Don’t overdo Drum Buss Boom if your bass is heavy.

Don’t forget to high-pass your parallel smash.

And don’t skip automation. Static loop syndrome is the fastest way to kill oldskool energy.

If you want to go darker and heavier, here are a couple quick upgrades.

Put Roar on the break only, do a band split, distort roughly 300 hertz to 4 kHz, keep lows clean, and automate the drive or mix up in fills.

Or for a subtle “tape-ish” instability, add Frequency Shifter on the break in a very low mix, like 2 to 8 percent, with a tiny amount. Automate that mix up for a one-beat accent and it’ll feel more like a sampled, lived-in record.

Now let’s wrap with a short practice plan you can do in about 20 minutes.

Pick one break, make a 4-bar loop. Add kick and snare layers. Keep the main snare on 2 and 4 stable, add two to four ghost notes per bar, and nudge ghosts late while off-hats go slightly early.

Build the drum bus chain: EQ Eight into Drum Buss into Saturator into Glue. Add Utility for level matching.

Then do three automation passes. One: Drum Buss Drive, intro low, drop higher. Two: parallel smash send up on fills. Three: room send up in intro, down in drop.

Then bounce a 32-bar clip and listen away from the project. Low volume, does the snare still steer the groove? On headphones, do hats feel pushed while ghosts feel dragged? In mono, does the punch disappear, meaning you might have a layering phase issue?

That’s the whole philosophy: break provides swing and texture, layers provide the anchor, the bus provides glue and character, and automation provides evolution.

If you tell me what break you’re using, your BPM, and whether your bassline is sparse or busy, I can suggest exact groove values, plus a two-bar ghost note layout that’ll lock to that specific pocket.

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