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Retro Rave Ableton Live 12 top loop framework without losing headroom for jungle oldskool DnB vibes (Beginner)

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Retro Rave Top-Loop Framework in Ableton Live 12 (Jungle/Oldskool DnB) — FX + Headroom Safe 🔊🧪

1. Lesson overview

You’re going to build a retro rave “top loop” FX framework in Ableton Live 12 that gives you that oldskool jungle/DnB sparkle—think shakers, rides, breaks-top air, vinyl grit, dubby space—without eating your mix headroom or turning the high end into a harsh mess.

This is a beginner-friendly, repeatable template you can drop onto any DnB project and instantly get vibe while keeping your drums and bass clean and loud.

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2. What you will build

A Top Loop Group made of:

  • Top Loop source (hats/shakers/ride/break top)
  • Clean control chain (EQ + transient shaping + gentle saturation)
  • Parallel FX returns (reverb + dub delay + “rave room”/resample texture)
  • Headroom-safe bus processing (compression done right, not flattening)
  • End result: crispy, rolling tops with that rave-era space + grit—but your master stays happy. ✅

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    3. Step-by-step walkthrough

    Step 0 — Set the project up for headroom (2 minutes)

    1. Set tempo: 165–175 BPM (start at 170).

    2. On the Master, drop Metering (if you have Live Suite, use Spectrum + Limiter later for safety).

    3. Set your rough gain staging target:

    - Master peak should sit around -10 to -6 dBFS while building.

    - If you’re slamming close to 0 early, you’ll fight distortion later.

    Quick rule: turn tracks down, not the master. 🎚️

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    Step 1 — Create your “Top Loop Group” (the framework)

    1. Create an Audio Track: name it `TOP LOOP`.

    2. Create a Group (Cmd/Ctrl+G) and name the group `TOPS BUS`.

    3. Inside that group, create 3 tracks:

    - `TOPS - CLEAN`

    - `TOPS - BREAK AIR`

    - `TOPS - RESAMPLE` (optional but very jungle)

    You’ll layer these lightly instead of forcing one loop to do everything.

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    Step 2 — Choose or build your top content (DnB-friendly sources)

    #### Option A: Use a break and extract the highs

    1. Drop a classic break (Amen, Think, Funky Drummer—anything) onto `TOPS - BREAK AIR`.

    2. Warp mode: Beats

    - Preserve: 1/16

    - Transients: ~20–40

    - Envelope: ~40–60%

    3. High-pass it (we’ll do this next) so it’s only “air” and groove.

    #### Option B: Program hats/shakers (clean + controllable)

    On `TOPS - CLEAN`, add a Drum Rack and load:

  • Closed hat
  • Open hat
  • Shaker
  • Ride (short)
  • Pattern tip (classic rolling feel):

  • Closed hats: 8ths
  • Add offbeat opens
  • Shaker: 16ths but velocity random (subtle)
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    Step 3 — Put a “Headroom Safe” device chain on each tops track

    You’re going to control low end, transients, and harshness first.

    #### On `TOPS - CLEAN` add:

    1. EQ Eight

    - HP filter: 24 dB/oct @ 200–350 Hz

    - Small dip: -2 dB @ 6–8 kHz if harsh

    2. Drum Buss

    - Drive: 2–6%

    - Crunch: 0–10 (keep light)

    - Damp: 20–40% (tames fizz)

    - Boom: OFF (don’t add lows to tops)

    3. Utility

    - Gain: set so the track peaks about -18 to -12 dBFS

    - Width: 100–130% (don’t go crazy yet)

    #### On `TOPS - BREAK AIR` add:

    1. EQ Eight

    - HP filter: 24 dB/oct @ 400–700 Hz (yes, high!)

    - Optional presence boost: +1 to +2 dB @ 9–12 kHz (wide Q)

    2. Saturator

    - Mode: Soft Sine or Analog Clip

    - Drive: 1–3 dB

    - Output: reduce to match level (don’t get fooled by loudness)

    3. Utility

    - Width: 120–160%

    - Mono: consider enabling Bass Mono? (Not needed here since we’ve HP’d hard.)

    #### On `TOPS - RESAMPLE` (optional “retro grit” layer):

    1. Start by resampling your tops later (Step 6), but prep the chain:

    2. Redux

    - Bit reduction: 12–14 bits (subtle)

    - Sample rate: 12–18 kHz (tiny movement, not a telephone)

    - Dry/Wet: 10–25%

    3. Auto Filter

    - Mode: LP or BP

    - Drive: 0–15%

    - Map filter cutoff to a Macro later for movement

    This layer should sit quiet. It’s spice. 🌶️

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    Step 4 — Create 3 FX Returns specifically for tops (clean mix control)

    Make Return tracks (or inside the group use Return Chains via an Audio Effect Rack if you prefer).

    #### Return A: `TOPS VERB (Rave Room)` 🏛️

    1. Hybrid Reverb

    - Mode: Algorithm

    - Type: Room / Hall (small-mid)

    - Decay: 0.6–1.2s

    - Pre-delay: 10–25 ms

    - High Cut: 7–10 kHz

    - Low Cut: 300–600 Hz

    - Dry/Wet: 100% on return

    2. EQ Eight (after reverb)

    - HP @ 400–800 Hz

    - Small notch if metallic: -2 dB around 2.5–4 kHz

    Send tiny amounts from tops tracks (-18 to -10 dB sends as a start).

    #### Return B: `TOPS DUB DELAY` 🌀

    1. Echo

    - Time: 1/8 dotted or 1/4

    - Feedback: 15–35%

    - Filter: HP ~500 Hz, LP ~6–8 kHz

    - Modulation: small (2–8%)

    - Stereo: 120% (watch mono compatibility)

    - Dry/Wet: 100% on return

    2. Compressor (sidechain from your Kick or Drum Bus)

    - Sidechain: Kick

    - Ratio: 2:1

    - Attack: 3–10 ms

    - Release: 80–150 ms

    - Aim for 1–3 dB gain reduction when the kick hits

    This keeps delay exciting but out of the way. ✅

    #### Return C: `TOPS CRUSH / TAPE` 📼

    1. Saturator

    - Drive: 2–5 dB

    - Soft Clip: ON

    2. EQ Eight

    - HP @ 600 Hz

    - Gentle shelf: -1 to -3 dB @ 10–12 kHz (prevents sandpaper highs)

    3. Optional: Chorus-Ensemble

    - Amount: very low (5–15%)

    - Rate: slow

    Send sparingly—this is for “rave age” texture.

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    Step 5 — Build the `TOPS BUS` processing (glue without losing headroom)

    On the TOPS BUS group channel, add:

    1. EQ Eight (first)

    - HP @ 150–250 Hz

    - If harsh: dip -1 to -3 dB @ 7–9 kHz

    2. Glue Compressor

    - Attack: 10 ms

    - Release: Auto (or 0.3s)

    - Ratio: 2:1

    - Soft Clip: OFF (for now)

    - Aim for 1–2 dB gain reduction on peaks

    You want glue, not “pancake.”

    3. Limiter (safety, not loudness)

    - Ceiling: -1 dB

    - Gain: 0 dB

    - This is just to catch random spikes if a ride goes wild.

    Headroom check: After this bus, your tops should still peak conservatively (roughly -12 to -8 dBFS). Tops are bright—don’t let them dominate.

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    Step 6 — Add movement: “retro rave” automation that stays controlled

    Here are 3 classic jungle-friendly moves:

    #### Move 1: Filter sweeps on FX returns

  • On `TOPS VERB`, automate Hybrid Reverb High Cut from 12 kHz → 7 kHz into drops.
  • On `TOPS DUB DELAY`, automate Echo Feedback up slightly at the end of 8/16-bar phrases.
  • #### Move 2: Micro-stutters on the break air

  • Add Beat Repeat to `TOPS - BREAK AIR` (after EQ)
  • - Interval: 1 Bar

    - Grid: 1/16

    - Chance: 10–20%

    - Variation: 0–20

    - Mix: 10–25%

    This gives that oldschool “caught on the sampler” vibe without destroying the groove. 🔁

    #### Move 3: Resample + reintroduce as texture

    1. Solo the `TOPS BUS` and resample 4–8 bars into a new audio clip (set a track to Resampling input).

    2. Put that clip on `TOPS - RESAMPLE`.

    3. HP it hard (600 Hz+) and keep it very low in volume.

    4. Use Auto Pan (subtle):

    - Rate: 1/2 or 1 bar

    - Amount: 10–20%

    - Phase: 180°

    Now your tops feel “alive” without extra loudness.

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    Step 7 — Arrangement idea (DnB phrases that sell the vibe)

    Use 16-bar logic:

  • Bars 1–8 (intro): tops + break air + a touch of verb
  • Bars 9–16: add dub delay throws, small filter open
  • Drop (bar 17): pull reverb send down, keep clean tops tight
  • After 8 bars post-drop: reintroduce FX sends gradually for lift
  • Key idea: FX are contrast tools. Too much all the time = no impact.

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    4. Common mistakes

  • Not high-passing tops: low-mid junk (200–600 Hz) steals headroom fast.
  • Over-widening early: wide hats can wreck mono compatibility and smear drums.
  • Too much reverb on hats: instantly makes the mix feel smaller and less punchy.
  • Compressing the tops bus too hard: you’ll bring up harshness and lose groove.
  • Using distortion without output matching: you think it’s “better,” but it’s just louder.
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    5. Pro tips for darker/heavier DnB 🖤

  • Make space for bass/sub: HP your tops more aggressively than you think (300–700 Hz on air layers).
  • Tame harshness dynamically (stock approach):
  • - Use Multiband Dynamics gently:

    - High band (6 kHz+): reduce by 1–3 dB when it spikes

  • Sidechain FX returns to the snare as well as kick (subtle):
  • - Keeps snare crack upfront while delays/reverbs breathe around it.

  • Add “metal” tastefully:
  • - Tiny bell boost around 10–12 kHz on one layer only

    - Then control it with Damp in Drum Buss or EQ after FX

  • Short rooms > big halls for heavy DnB:
  • - Dark, short reverb reads “warehouse” not “cathedral.”

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    6. Mini practice exercise (15 minutes) 🎯

    1. Pick one break, warp it, and create `TOPS - BREAK AIR` using HP @ 600 Hz.

    2. Program a basic hat pattern on `TOPS - CLEAN`.

    3. Set up the 3 returns (Verb / Dub Delay / Crush).

    4. Make a loop for 32 bars:

    - Bars 1–16: slowly increase delay send

    - Bar 16: quick feedback “throw” (automation bump)

    - Bar 17 (drop): reduce sends by ~50%, tighten the tops

    5. Export just the drum stem and check:

    - Does the master peak stay under -6 dBFS?

    - Do the tops feel energetic without hissing?

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    7. Recap

  • Build tops from layers (clean + break air + optional resample).
  • High-pass aggressively to protect headroom.
  • Use parallel FX returns with filters + sidechain to keep the groove clean.
  • Keep bus compression light (1–2 dB GR) and use automation for excitement.
  • Think like jungle: tight drums + dirty atmosphere, not endless bright noise. 🔥

If you want, tell me what kind of top loop you’re starting with (pure programmed hats vs. break tops), and I’ll suggest exact EQ points and FX send ranges for that source.

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Welcome in. In this lesson we’re building a retro rave top-loop framework in Ableton Live 12 for jungle and oldskool drum and bass vibes, but we’re doing it the grown-up way: lots of sparkle, lots of motion, and we do not destroy our headroom.

When I say “top loop,” I mean everything living in the high end of your drum groove. Hats, shakers, rides, the airy top of a breakbeat, little bits of vinyl grit, and those dubby spaces that make it feel like a sweaty warehouse instead of a sterile computer loop.

And the big mission today is control. Because tops are tricky: they can feel exciting, but they also eat headroom fast, and if you don’t manage them, they’ll turn your whole mix into harsh fizz. So we’re going to build a template you can reuse in any project.

Alright. Step zero: headroom setup. This takes two minutes and saves you two hours later.

Set your tempo somewhere between 165 and 175 BPM. If you want a safe starting point, pick 170.

On the master, drop in a meter. Ableton’s Spectrum is fine. We’re not mastering right now, we’re just watching levels. Your target while building is: the master peaks around minus 10 to minus 6 dBFS. If you’re already near zero, you’re going to fight distortion later.

And here’s the rule that keeps you sane: turn tracks down, not the master. If something’s too loud, pull that channel down. Don’t rely on the master fader as a band-aid.

Now Step one: create the framework.

Make one audio track and name it TOP LOOP. Then group it, Command or Control G, and rename the group TOPS BUS.

Inside that group, create three tracks. Name them TOPS - CLEAN, TOPS - BREAK AIR, and TOPS - RESAMPLE. The resample one is optional, but it’s very jungle when you do it right.

This is the core concept: instead of trying to force one loop to do everything, we do layers. Each layer has one job. That gives you vibe without chaos, and it keeps the sound design simple.

Step two: choose your top content.

Option A: break-derived air. Drop a classic break onto TOPS - BREAK AIR. Amen, Think, Funky Drummer, whatever you’ve got. Set Warp mode to Beats. Preserve at one sixteenth. Set Transients around 20 to 40 and the envelope around 40 to 60 percent. You’re aiming for tightness and groove, not that floppy time-stretch sound.

Option B: program hats and shakers. On TOPS - CLEAN, put a Drum Rack with a closed hat, an open hat, a shaker, and a short ride. For the pattern, start simple: closed hats on eighth notes, add offbeat open hats, and put the shaker on sixteenths but with subtle velocity variation so it rolls instead of machine-gunning.

Quick teacher note: if the dry groove isn’t working, do not reach for reverb. FX won’t fix a stiff loop. FX just blur whatever you already have. So we’re going to build “silence discipline.” For now, pretend the returns don’t exist. Make the dry tops feel good first.

Now Step three: the headroom-safe chain on each tops track.

We’re controlling low end, transients, and harshness before we do any big vibe moves.

On TOPS - CLEAN, add EQ Eight first. High-pass it with a steep slope, 24 dB per octave, somewhere around 200 to 350 Hz. Pick the spot where the tops stay bright, but the boxy low-mid junk disappears. If the hats are harsh, do a small dip, like minus 2 dB, around 6 to 8 kHz.

Next add Drum Buss. Keep it gentle. Drive around 2 to 6 percent. Crunch between 0 and 10, very light. Damp around 20 to 40 percent to tame fizzy highs. And make sure Boom is off. We are not adding low end to our tops. That’s how headroom vanishes.

Then add Utility. Adjust gain so this track peaks around minus 18 to minus 12 dBFS. That’s a healthy range. Set width to about 100 to 130 percent. Don’t go wide-crazy yet. Width is like hot sauce: a little is exciting, too much ruins dinner.

On TOPS - BREAK AIR, add EQ Eight. This time, high-pass much higher. Seriously. Use a 24 dB per octave high-pass around 400 to 700 Hz. You want “air and tick,” not snare body, not midrange, not anything that competes with your main drums.

If you want extra sparkle, you can add a gentle wide boost of 1 to 2 dB around 9 to 12 kHz. Wide Q, subtle move.

Then add Saturator. Use Soft Sine or Analog Clip. Drive 1 to 3 dB. And here’s the skill that separates producers from plugin collectors: output match. After saturation, lower the output so the level sounds the same loudness as before. If it only sounds better because it’s louder, it’s not better.

Then Utility again. You can push width 120 to 160 percent here, because this is an airy layer and we high-passed it hard. Still, we’ll mono-check later.

Now TOPS - RESAMPLE, optional but spicy. For now, just set up the chain.

Add Redux. Set bit reduction around 12 to 14 bits for subtle grit. Sample rate around 12 to 18 kHz, just enough to feel like old gear, not enough to turn into a telephone. Dry/wet 10 to 25 percent.

Then add Auto Filter. Use low-pass or band-pass. Drive can be 0 to 15 percent. Later we’ll automate this for movement.

And a reminder: this layer should be quiet. It’s seasoning. If you can clearly hear it as a separate thing, it’s probably too loud.

Step four: create three FX returns specifically for tops.

You can do this as normal Return tracks in your project, or you can build them inside the group using an Audio Effect Rack with parallel chains. The rack approach is cleaner if you want to save this whole tops bus as a preset. But either way, we want three types: a room reverb, a dub delay, and a crush or tape texture.

Return A is TOPS VERB, your “rave room.”

Put Hybrid Reverb on it. Algorithm mode. Choose a room or small-to-mid hall. Decay 0.6 to 1.2 seconds. Pre-delay 10 to 25 milliseconds. High cut 7 to 10 kHz. Low cut 300 to 600 Hz. And on a return, keep it 100 percent wet.

After the reverb, add EQ Eight and high-pass again around 400 to 800 Hz. If it gets metallic, notch a little around 2.5 to 4 kHz, maybe minus 2 dB.

Now the key: send tiny amounts from your tops tracks. Start with sends around minus 18 to minus 10 dB. If you slam reverb on hats, the mix instantly feels smaller and less punchy. The trick is “you miss it when it’s muted,” not “you notice it when it’s on.”

Return B is TOPS DUB DELAY.

Add Echo. Set time to one eighth dotted or one quarter. Feedback 15 to 35 percent. Filter it: high-pass around 500 Hz, low-pass around 6 to 8 kHz. Add a little modulation, like 2 to 8 percent. Stereo width maybe 120 percent, but be mindful of mono later. And again, 100 percent wet on the return.

After Echo, add Compressor and sidechain it from the kick or your main drum bus. Ratio 2 to 1. Attack 3 to 10 milliseconds. Release 80 to 150 milliseconds. Aim for just 1 to 3 dB of gain reduction when the kick hits. This is one of the biggest “pro” moves in this whole lesson: exciting delay that gets out of the way automatically.

Return C is TOPS CRUSH or TAPE.

Add Saturator. Drive 2 to 5 dB, Soft Clip on. Then EQ Eight: high-pass around 600 Hz, and a gentle high shelf cut, maybe minus 1 to minus 3 dB around 10 to 12 kHz to stop it becoming sandpaper. Optional Chorus-Ensemble with very low amount, like 5 to 15 percent, slow rate.

Send to this very sparingly. This is your “rave age” layer. Too much and you get brittle, not vintage.

Now Step five: process the TOPS BUS itself. This is where people usually ruin their drums, so we’re going to keep it light.

On the TOPS BUS group channel, add EQ Eight first. High-pass around 150 to 250 Hz. Then, if it’s harsh overall, dip 1 to 3 dB around 7 to 9 kHz.

Then add Glue Compressor. Attack 10 milliseconds. Release on Auto, or about 0.3 seconds. Ratio 2 to 1. Soft Clip off for now. You want about 1 to 2 dB of gain reduction on peaks. This is glue, not pancake. If you’re getting 5 dB of reduction, you’re not “gluing,” you’re flattening.

Then add a Limiter as safety only. Ceiling minus 1 dB. Gain at zero. This is not for loudness. It’s just catching random ride spikes so you don’t get surprise clicks.

Headroom check: after the bus, your tops should peak roughly minus 12 to minus 8 dBFS. Bright sounds feel loud even when their meters aren’t huge, so trust your balance, not your anxiety.

Now a coaching trick that really helps beginners avoid chasing brightness: put a Utility at the very end of TOPS BUS and temporarily set Gain to minus 6 dB while you dial in EQ, saturation, and FX. If your tops still feel exciting when they’re quieter, you built real energy. If they suddenly feel dead, you were relying on volume, not groove.

Step six: add movement. Retro rave energy is motion and contrast, not constant wash.

Move one: filter sweeps on FX returns. On the reverb return, automate the high cut from about 12 kHz down to 7 kHz heading into drops, so the space gets darker and tighter. On the dub delay, automate the feedback up slightly at the end of an 8 or 16 bar phrase, like a little throw. Keep it small. Oldschool vibes come from quick gestures, not huge EDM ramps.

Move two: micro-stutters on the break air. On TOPS - BREAK AIR, after EQ, add Beat Repeat. Interval one bar. Grid one sixteenth. Chance 10 to 20 percent. Variation 0 to 20. Mix 10 to 25 percent. This gives that “caught in the sampler” moment without nuking your groove. If it starts sounding like a glitch track, reduce mix first.

Move three: resample and reintroduce texture. Solo the TOPS BUS and resample 4 to 8 bars into a new audio clip. Put that clip on TOPS - RESAMPLE. High-pass it hard, 600 Hz or higher, keep it low in volume, then add Auto Pan: rate one half bar or one bar, amount 10 to 20 percent, phase 180 degrees. Now the tops feel alive without you stacking louder layers.

Step seven: arrangement, because jungle is all about phrases.

Think in 16s. Bars 1 to 8, intro: tops plus break air, tiny reverb. Bars 9 to 16: add little dub delay throws, maybe open a filter slightly. Then at the drop, pull reverb and delay sends down. Keep the clean tops tight. After 8 bars post-drop, slowly bring the FX returns back for lift.

Here’s the mindset: FX are contrast tools. If everything is drenched all the time, nothing feels special.

Now, common mistakes to avoid.

If you don’t high-pass tops, low-mid junk between about 200 and 600 Hz steals headroom instantly. If you over-widen early, hats can disappear in mono or smear the drums. If you use too much reverb on hats, your mix shrinks and loses punch. If you compress the tops bus too hard, you bring up harshness and kill groove. And if you distort without output matching, you’ll think it’s better when it’s just louder.

Let’s add two important “check yourself” habits.

First: mono check. Put a Utility at the end of TOPS BUS and occasionally toggle mono. If your hats collapse or sound phasey, don’t panic. Reduce width on the widest layer first, usually BREAK AIR or a chorusy return.

Second: spike control should be local, not global. If one ride transient is poking out, don’t smash the whole tops bus. Go to the offending layer and reduce Drum Buss transient slightly, or do a tiny narrow EQ dip where the spike lives, often around 8 to 10 kHz for that “tink” sound.

If you want a darker, heavier DnB direction, here are quick tweaks. High-pass your air layers more aggressively, even up to 700 Hz. Use Multiband Dynamics gently to tame 6 kHz and up by 1 to 3 dB only when it spikes. And sidechain the reverb return from the snare as well as the kick, very subtly, so the snare crack stays upfront while the space breathes between hits.

Now a 15-minute practice loop so you can actually lock this in.

Pick one break, warp it, and build TOPS - BREAK AIR with a high-pass at about 600 Hz. Program a basic hat pattern on TOPS - CLEAN. Set up your three returns: verb, dub delay, crush. Then make a 32-bar loop. Bars 1 to 16, slowly increase the delay send. On bar 16, do a quick feedback throw for maybe half a bar. At bar 17, the “drop,” reduce sends by about 50 percent and tighten the tops.

Export just the drum stem and check two things. One: does the master peak stay under minus 6 dBFS without you cheating with a limiter for loudness? Two: do the tops feel energetic without hissing or spitting?

Let’s recap the whole framework.

You’re building tops from layers: clean hats, break air, and optional resample texture. You’re high-passing aggressively to protect headroom. You’re using parallel FX returns that are filtered and sidechained so they stay out of the groove’s way. You’re keeping bus compression light, one to two dB, and using automation for excitement instead of constant loudness.

That’s the jungle way: tight drums, dirty atmosphere, controlled chaos.

If you tell me what you’re starting with, mostly break-derived tops or mostly one-shot programmed hats, I can give you a tight starting preset: exact high-pass points, width ranges, and which return to “dirty up” so it reads oldskool without turning brittle.

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