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Fill in Ableton Live 12: humanize it for floor-shaking low end for jungle oldskool DnB vibes (Intermediate)

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Fill in Ableton Live 12: Humanize it for Floor‑Shaking Low End (Jungle / Oldskool DnB) 🔊🥁

1. Lesson overview

This lesson is about writing and producing a proper jungle/DnB fill in Ableton Live 12 that:

  • Feels human (not robotic)
  • Hits hard on a big system (low end stays clean)
  • Matches oldskool/jungle energy (breakbeat language + attitude)
  • Transitions you between phrases (8/16/32-bar structure)
  • We’ll focus on breakbeat fills, not EDM snare rolls. Expect micro-edits, ghost hits, swing, pitch nudges, and controlled saturation.

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    2. What you will build

    You’ll build a 2-bar fill designed to drop into a rolling breakbeat (Amen/Think-style vibe) at the end of a 16-bar phrase, with:

  • Humanized timing (Groove Pool + manual nudges)
  • Velocity realism (ghosts + accents)
  • Low-end-safe punch (clean sub + controlled kick/bass overlap)
  • Classic jungle “chop language” (snare-kick stutters, reverse bits, tiny pitch drops)
  • A ready-to-use Ableton stock device chain for the fill bus
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    3. Step-by-step walkthrough

    Step 0 — Session setup (so the fill lands correctly)

    1. Set tempo to a DnB range:

    - 165–175 BPM (try 172 BPM for oldskool energy)

    2. In Arrangement View, create a phrase grid:

    - Mark every 16 bars (Locators help)

    - Your fill will live in bars 15–16 (or last 2 bars of a 32)

    DnB arrangement reality: Most classic rolls are 8/16-bar loops with variation at the end. Fills are punctuation, not a new drum solo.

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    Step 1 — Get a break and prep it properly

    1. Load a break sample into Simpler (Slice mode):

    - Drag a break (Amen / Think / Hot Pants / Funky Drummer etc.) to a MIDI track.

    - In Simpler: switch to Slice

    - Slice By: Transient

    - Sensitivity: adjust until you get clean kick/snare slices.

    2. Convert slices to a Drum Rack:

    - Right-click Simpler → Slice to New MIDI Track

    - Choose: Built-in slicing preset (fine)

    - Now you have a Drum Rack with each slice on pads.

    Why: A fill is easiest when you can re-order and re-hit slices with MIDI.

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    Step 2 — Write a fill that speaks jungle (2-bar template)

    Create a MIDI clip on the Drum Rack that covers 2 bars.

    Here’s a practical pattern approach:

  • Bar 1: keep the groove recognizable (don’t derail the dancefloor)
  • Bar 2: add edits + tension → then leave space right before the drop
  • #### Bar 1: “lock it in”

  • Keep your core snare on beat 2 and 4 (classic DnB backbone).
  • Add 1–2 ghost notes before the snare:
  • - Place a quiet snare slice at 1.3.3 or 1.4.4 (16th-ish area)

    - Velocity low (we’ll dial later)

    #### Bar 2: “chop language”

    Use these fill moves (pick 2–3, not all at once):

    Move A — Snare flam (micro-double)

  • Put a snare slice slightly before the main snare (like 10–20 ms early).
  • Then hit the main snare at the grid.
  • Move B — Kick stutter

  • Repeat a kick or low slice in 16ths for the last half-beat of the phrase.
  • Move C — Reverse a tiny hit

  • Duplicate a snare slice audio (we’ll do this in Step 6) or use Simpler trick:
  • - For one slice, turn on Reverse in Simpler (on that pad)

    - Use it as a lead-in into the final snare.

    Move D — “Gap before drop”

  • In the last 1/8 or 1/4 note of bar 2, remove one hit to create a vacuum.
  • This makes the drop feel bigger than any extra notes.
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    Step 3 — Humanize timing (without losing the slam)

    You want controlled looseness: swing and micro-timing, but snare anchors stay dependable.

    #### Option 1: Groove Pool (fast and musical)

    1. Open Groove Pool

    2. Drag in a groove:

    - Try: MPC 16 Swing style grooves or anything subtle

    3. Apply to your MIDI clip:

    - Timing: 10–25%

    - Velocity: 5–15%

    - Random: 2–8%

    4. Hit Commit only if you want it “printed.”

    DnB rule: Keep the main snare close to grid. Let hats/ghosts/chops carry the looseness.

    #### Option 2: Manual micro-nudge (for proper “chopped break” feel)

    In MIDI editor:

  • Nudge ghost notes late by 5–15 ms
  • Nudge some kicks early by 5–10 ms
  • Keep “main snare” nearly on-grid (±0–5 ms)
  • Pro workflow tip: Turn on View → Note Length and work zoomed-in. These tiny shifts are the difference between “human” and “messy.”

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    Step 4 — Humanize velocity (this is where the groove lives) 🎯

    In the MIDI clip:

  • Main snares: 100–127
  • Main kicks: 85–120 (depending on your kick sample)
  • Ghost snares / little ticks: 20–60
  • Extra fill hits: 60–100 (varied!)
  • Use these tools:

  • MIDI editor Velocity Lane
  • MIDI Effects → Velocity
  • - Try:

    - Random: 5–12

    - Drive: +0 to +10 (careful)

    DnB feel tip: A fill that’s too loud everywhere feels like a mistake. Contrast is everything.

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    Step 5 — Keep the low end floor-shaking (sub stays clean)

    Your fill should hype the drums, not smear the sub.

    #### Core low-end rule for fills:

    During the fill, either:

  • Keep the sub stable and let the drums go wild above it, or
  • Briefly reduce sub energy to create tension, then slam back at drop.
  • Practical approach (recommended): keep sub stable.

  • Don’t add extra low kick layers during the fill unless you manage overlap.
  • #### Sidechain the sub to the fill (stock tools)

    On your Sub Bass track add:

  • Compressor
  • - Sidechain: from Drum Fill Bus (we’ll make this)

    - Ratio: 3:1 to 5:1

    - Attack: 5–15 ms

    - Release: 80–140 ms

    - Aim for 1–3 dB gain reduction (subtle, just clearing space)

    If you like a punchier oldskool “pump,” push to 3–5 dB, but don’t wreck the sustain.

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    Step 6 — Turn the fill into a “moment” with audio chops (classic jungle trick)

    MIDI slicing is great, but audio editing is where you get that authentic snap.

    1. Duplicate your 2-bar fill to a new Audio Track:

    - Freeze and Flatten, or resample to audio:

    - Create new audio track → set input to Resampling

    - Record the fill

    2. Warp settings:

    - Warp: On

    - Mode: Beats

    - Preserve: Transients

    - Transient Loop Mode: Off

    - This keeps edits punchy.

    3. Do 3 signature jungle edits:

    - Reverse a tiny snare tail right before a hit (1/16 note length is enough)

    - Gate a slice (shorten the clip to make it more percussive)

    - Pitch drop the last hit (for oldskool drama):

    - Clip Envelopes → Transposition → draw a quick dip -1 to -3 semitones on the final snare/kick chunk

    Keep it subtle. The crowd should feel it more than “hear an effect.”

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    Step 7 — Build a solid stock Ableton device chain for your Fill Bus

    Group your fill elements (Drum Rack track + any resampled audio) into a Drum Fill Group, then process on the group.

    Suggested Fill Bus Chain (stock):

    1. EQ Eight

    - HPF at 25–35 Hz (gentle, 12 dB/oct)

    - Small cut if boxy: 250–450 Hz (1–3 dB)

    - Optional: tiny shelf +1 dB around 8–10 kHz if it needs air

    2. Drum Buss

    - Drive: 5–15

    - Crunch: 0–10 (use lightly)

    - Boom: Off or very subtle (Boom can mess with sub weight)

    - Damp: adjust so it’s not fizzy

    3. Saturator

    - Mode: Soft Sine or Analog Clip

    - Drive: 1–4 dB

    - Turn on Soft Clip

    - Goal: density + perceived loudness without harshness

    4. Glue Compressor

    - Attack: 10 ms

    - Release: Auto (or 0.3s if you want it more obvious)

    - Ratio: 2:1

    - Aim: 1–2 dB reduction max

    - This “frames” the fill so it doesn’t jump out awkwardly.

    5. (Optional) Utility

    - Width: 80–100% (don’t widen low end)

    - If needed, automate gain +1 dB just for the fill (tasteful lift)

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    Step 8 — Arrange it like real DnB (so it actually works in a tune)

    Place fills with purpose:

  • Every 16 bars: small fill (1 bar)
  • Every 32 bars: more noticeable fill (2 bars)
  • Before a drop: create space
  • - Last 1/4 beat: remove kick, let a snare tail + FX lead into drop

  • Before a breakdown: use more edits + less low end for “pullback”
  • Classic jungle move: Fill gets busy, then the last moment goes empty → drop hits like a truck.

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    4. Common mistakes ❌

    1. Over-filling: too many chops = the groove stops rolling.

    2. Main snare gets “lost”: if your anchor snare isn’t consistent, dancers lose the pocket.

    3. Low-end chaos: extra kicks + sub + saturation = muddy club system.

    4. Too much swing everywhere: swing the hats/ghosts, not the whole backbone.

    5. Harsh top end: boosted 8–12 kHz on breaks can turn into painful fizz fast.

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    5. Pro tips for darker/heavier DnB 🌑

  • Parallel distortion (controlled):
  • - Create a return track with Saturator → EQ Eight (HPF 200 Hz)

    - Send only snares/amen top to it. Keeps weight but adds menace.

  • Reese discipline: If you’re running a reese, automate a tiny dip during the fill (1–2 dB) so the drums shine.
  • Mono your sub: Use Utility on the sub track:
  • - Width: 0% (mono)

    - This keeps the system solid.

  • Tension automation: Automate on the fill bus:
  • - Slight high-pass rise (e.g., 35 Hz → 60 Hz) in the last bar

    - Snap it back at the drop for impact.

  • Dark room vibe: Tiny, short room on snare only:
  • - Reverb (short decay 0.4–0.8s), HPF in reverb to keep it tight.

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    6. Mini practice exercise 🧠🥁

    In a 172 BPM project:

    1. Make a 16-bar loop with a break groove.

    2. Write two different 1-bar fills for bar 16:

    - Fill A: mostly velocity + ghosts (minimal edits)

    - Fill B: includes 1 reverse hit + 1 micro-flam

    3. For each fill:

    - Apply Groove Pool timing 15%

    - Manually nudge 3 notes (two late, one early)

    4. Bounce both fills to audio and A/B them:

    - Which one keeps the snare anchor strongest?

    - Which one keeps the sub cleanest?

    Deliverable: a project with two fills you can drag into any jungle tune.

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    7. Recap ✅

  • Jungle/DnB fills should be tight, human, and functional: they guide energy between phrases.
  • Humanize with Groove Pool + micro-nudges + velocity contrast.
  • Keep low end massive by protecting sub space (sidechain + careful saturation).
  • For authentic oldskool flavor, add audio chops: reverse bits, short gates, tiny pitch drops.
  • Process fills on a bus with stock devices: EQ Eight → Drum Buss → Saturator → Glue.

If you want, tell me what break you’re using (Amen/Think/etc.) and whether your bass is sub-only or reese-based, and I’ll suggest a fill pattern + exact swing values that fit your groove.

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Title: Fill in Ableton Live 12: Humanize it for Floor-Shaking Low End for Jungle Oldskool DnB Vibes (Intermediate)

Alright, let’s build a proper jungle-style fill in Ableton Live 12. Not an EDM snare roll, not a shiny festival riser. We’re talking breakbeat language: little stutters, ghost notes, micro-flams, tiny reverses… and the main thing: it still has to roll, and the low end has to stay clean enough to shake a floor without turning into fog.

By the end of this lesson you’ll have a two-bar fill you can drop at the end of a 16-bar phrase, plus a stock-device fill bus chain you can reuse in any project. And we’re going to humanize it in a smart order, so you don’t “randomize” your way into a messy groove.

First, quick session setup so the fill lands like it’s supposed to.

Set your tempo somewhere in the classic zone: 165 to 175 BPM. If you want that oldskool urgency, go 172. Now go into Arrangement View and give yourself some phrase landmarks. Put locators every 16 bars. The fill we’re building lives in bars 15 to 16 of a 16-bar phrase.

And here’s an arrangement reality check: in jungle and old DnB, the groove is the religion. Fills are punctuation. They’re there to guide the energy into the next phrase, not to steal the whole spotlight.

Now, step one: get a break and prep it properly.

Grab a classic break. Amen, Think, Hot Pants, Funky Drummer, anything in that family. Drag it onto a MIDI track so it loads into Simpler. Switch Simpler to Slice mode. Set Slice By to Transient, then adjust sensitivity until your kick and snare slices are clean and sensible.

Now do the key move: slice it to a Drum Rack. Right-click Simpler and choose Slice to New MIDI Track. Use the built-in preset, that’s fine. Now every slice is a pad, and that’s what makes jungle fills fast: you can “play” the break like an instrument, re-order it, repeat pieces, and create that chopped identity without fighting audio every second.

Step two: write a fill that actually speaks jungle. Two bars.

Create a two-bar MIDI clip on the Drum Rack. Think of it like this: bar one is “lock it in,” bar two is “chop language.”

In bar one, keep the groove recognizable. Keep your main snare anchors on beats 2 and 4. That’s your spine. Then add one or two ghost notes leading into a snare. A useful spot is in that 16th-note neighborhood right before the snare… like somewhere in the last little subdivision before beat two, or the last little subdivision before beat four. Keep those ghosts quiet for now; we’ll shape the velocities in a minute.

Bar two is where you add tension, but you pick two or three moves, not all of them. This is where people go wrong and the fill turns into a drum solo. Choose a small set of signature gestures.

Here are a few classic moves.

Move A: the snare flam. Not a huge double hit—more like a micro-double. You put a snare slice slightly before the main snare. Ten to twenty milliseconds early is often enough. Then the main snare hits on the grid. It feels like hands, not a machine.

Move B: kick stutter. Take a kick slice or a low slice and repeat it in 16ths for the last half beat, just to ramp the tension.

Move C: reverse a tiny hit as a lead-in. A reversed snare fragment before the final snare is very oldskool, very effective, and it doesn’t need to be long. Even a 16th-note-sized reverse can do the job.

Move D: the gap before the drop. This one is almost cheating because it works so well. In the last eighth note, or even the last quarter note of bar two, remove something. Create a little vacuum. The drop hits harder because your brain expects something and it doesn’t get it… then it gets the drop.

And teacher note here: the “gap” often hits harder than adding more notes. When in doubt, subtract.

Now step three: humanize timing without losing the slam.

You want controlled looseness. In DnB, the snare anchors are the truth. Hats, ghosts, little chopped ticks—those can be cheeky. So we humanize, but we protect the anchors.

Option one is Groove Pool. Open the Groove Pool and drag in a subtle swing—MPC 16 Swing-style grooves are a great starting point. Apply it to your MIDI clip with timing around 10 to 25 percent, velocity around 5 to 15 percent, and random around 2 to 8 percent. Keep it subtle. The goal is “human,” not “drunk.”

Then do what I call anchor protection. After the groove is applied, zoom in and check your two main snares in each bar. If they drift too far, manually pull them closer to the grid. Dancers lock to those.

Option two is manual micro-nudging, and this is where you get that real chopped-break feel.

Zoom in. Nudge your ghost notes a little late—five to fifteen milliseconds. Nudge some kicks slightly early—five to ten milliseconds. Keep the main snare almost on-grid, like plus or minus zero to five milliseconds. This tiny timing offset is the difference between “alive” and “messy,” so listen as you move things. You’re aiming for swagger, not slop.

Step four: humanize velocity. This is where the groove lives.

Think of velocity like fader automation inside the fill. A fill sounds exciting because of contrast, not because every hit is maxed out.

As a baseline: main snares somewhere around 100 up to 127. Main kicks maybe 85 to 120 depending on the sample. Ghost snares and tiny ticks: keep them low, like 20 to 60. Extra fill hits: varied, maybe 60 to 100, not all the same.

Go into the velocity lane in the MIDI editor and draw in that contrast: very quiet ghosts, then a loud accent, then maybe a little drop in velocity again, then your gap, then the return.

If you want a bit of controlled randomness, drop the MIDI Velocity effect before the rack. Try random around 5 to 12. Drive can help, but keep it modest—plus zero to plus ten—and check it doesn’t crush your carefully planned dynamics.

Now step five: keep the low end floor-shaking, and keep the sub believable.

The fill is there to hype the drums, not smear the bass. Here’s the core rule: during the fill, either keep the sub stable while the drums get busy above it, or intentionally reduce sub energy to build tension and then slam it back at the drop.

The most practical move is: keep the sub stable. That means you don’t suddenly add a bunch of extra low kick layers in the fill unless you manage the overlap. Because on a big system, density in the 50 to 120 hertz region becomes fog fast.

So let’s do a clean, stock sidechain so the fill clears a little space without wrecking sustain.

Create a Drum Fill Bus. Group your fill elements—your Drum Rack fill and any resampled audio we make later—into a group so you can process them together. That group becomes your sidechain source.

On the sub bass track, add Compressor. Turn on sidechain and choose the Drum Fill Bus. Ratio around three to one up to five to one. Attack five to fifteen milliseconds so you don’t completely erase the punch. Release around 80 to 140 milliseconds. And you’re aiming for subtle gain reduction: one to three dB. If you want a more oldskool pump you can go to three to five dB, but don’t destroy the sub’s sustain unless that’s a deliberate arrangement decision.

Also, quick coach note: sometimes the best way to keep the sub clean isn’t more compression, it’s fewer low slices. If your fill has lots of low tommy bits, thin them out first.

Now step six: turn the fill into a moment with audio chops. This is where it starts sounding authentic.

MIDI slicing is great, but classic jungle snap often comes from committing to audio and doing a few surgical edits.

Duplicate the two-bar fill to an audio track. You can freeze and flatten the drum rack, or resample it. A straightforward way: make a new audio track, set input to Resampling, arm it, and record the fill.

Then set warp correctly. Warp on. Warp mode to Beats. Preserve Transients. Turn transient loop mode off. This keeps edits punchy instead of smeary.

Now do three signature jungle edits.

One: reverse a tiny snare tail right before a hit. Keep it short. You’re not doing a huge reverse cymbal, you’re doing a flick of reverse that pulls you into the snare.

Two: gate a slice. Literally shorten a piece so it becomes more percussive. This gives that “cut” feeling without adding volume.

Three: pitch drop the last hit for drama. Use clip envelopes, choose Transposition, and draw a quick dip of minus one to minus three semitones on the final snare or kick chunk. Subtle is the word. The crowd should feel it more than notice it as an effect.

And if you want an even nastier, more realistic vibe, try an ultra-small “tape drag” at the very end. Even minus 0.2 to minus 0.6 semitones can sound like the record got pulled for a split second. If you clearly hear it as an effect, it’s too much.

Now step seven: process the fill on a bus with stock Ableton devices, so it hits hard but stays controlled.

Group your fill tracks into a Drum Fill Group. Then put this chain on the group.

First: EQ Eight. High-pass around 25 to 35 hertz with a gentle slope. We’re not trying to remove weight, we’re removing useless rumble. If it feels boxy, cut a couple dB around 250 to 450 hertz. If it needs a touch of air, a tiny shelf around 8 to 10k can help, but be careful—breaks can turn into painful fizz fast.

Second: Drum Buss. Drive around 5 to 15. Crunch very light, like zero to ten. Boom off, or extremely subtle, because Boom can mess with the sub and make the low end unpredictable. Use Damp to keep the top from getting fizzy.

Third: Saturator. Soft Sine or Analog Clip mode. Drive one to four dB. Turn on Soft Clip. This is about density and perceived loudness, not harshness.

Fourth: Glue Compressor. Attack around 10 milliseconds, release on auto or around 0.3 seconds if you want it a bit more obvious, ratio two to one. Aim for one to two dB of gain reduction max. This “frames” the fill so it doesn’t jump out like it’s pasted in.

Optional: Utility. Keep width sensible, like 80 to 100 percent. Don’t widen low end. And if the fill needs to lift slightly, automate Utility gain up maybe one dB just for the fill instead of smashing it with more compression.

Now, two extra sound-design tricks you can use if you want darker or heavier energy without adding low-end mess.

One: parallel distortion, but filtered. Make a return track with Saturator or Overdrive, then EQ Eight after it with a high-pass around 200 hertz. That way you distort the attitude, not the sub. Send mostly snares and the top of the break to it. You get menace without mud.

Two: stereo discipline. If you want width, widen only the dirt. Put Utility on that parallel return and widen it to 130 to 170 percent after you’ve high-passed it. The punch stays mono and stable, the grime spreads out wide.

Now step eight: arrange it like real DnB so it actually works in a tune.

Use fills with purpose. Every 16 bars, a small one-bar fill. Every 32 bars, a more noticeable two-bar fill. Before a drop, create space: in the last quarter beat, remove the kick, let a snare tail or a tiny reverse tick lead in, then hit the drop clean.

A classic move is: the fill gets busy, then the last moment goes empty. That emptiness is what makes the drop feel like a truck.

Let’s hit common mistakes quickly so you can avoid the usual traps.

Mistake one: over-filling. Too many chops and the groove stops rolling.
Mistake two: the main snare gets lost. If the anchor isn’t consistent, dancers lose the pocket.
Mistake three: low-end chaos. Extra kicks plus sub plus saturation equals mud on a club system.
Mistake four: too much swing everywhere. Swing hats and ghosts, not the backbone.
Mistake five: harsh top end. Over-boosting 8 to 12k on breaks gets painful fast. If you hear spitty cymbal hash, dip around 7 to 10k or tame the highs with multiband dynamics a couple dB on peaks.

One more quick pro workflow tip: do your humanizing in layers, not all at once. Anchors first, then ghosts, then micro-timing, then commit audio edits. If you start with heavy groove randomization, you’ll end up fixing the wrong problem.

Also, if you layered a clean kick under your chopped break, do a quick phase sanity check. Put Utility on the kick layer and try phase invert left or right, and pick the setting that gives you more low-end punch at the same peak. Jungle drums are often about phase luck—make it deliberate.

Now a mini practice exercise to lock this in.

In a 172 BPM project, build a 16-bar loop with your break groove. Then write two different one-bar fills for bar 16.

Fill A is minimal: mostly velocity contrast and a couple ghosts, no obvious edits.
Fill B includes one reverse hit and one micro-flam.

For each fill, apply Groove Pool timing at 15 percent, then manually nudge three notes: two late and one early. Then bounce both fills to audio and A/B them.

Ask yourself two questions: which fill keeps the snare anchor strongest, and which keeps the sub cleanest?

And if you want to take it further, build three “levels” of the same fill idea: A is stealth, B adds one audio edit, C adds one extra accent and a touch more distortion. Then you can map them across your arrangement so variation feels intentional.

Quick recap to close.

A jungle fill should be tight, human, and functional. Humanize with Groove Pool, micro-nudges, and velocity contrast, but protect the anchor snares. Keep the low end massive by managing note density and using subtle sidechain, not brute-force compression. For authentic oldskool flavor, commit a version to audio and do tiny reverses, gates, and small pitch dips. Then frame it all with a solid stock bus: EQ Eight into Drum Buss into Saturator into Glue.

If you tell me which break you’re using and whether your bass is sub-only or you’ve got a reese midlayer, I can suggest two fill families with specific swing amounts and a slice order that will sit perfectly in that pocket.

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